tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3598011236524370092.post7640439447712025359..comments2023-04-13T02:54:58.231-07:00Comments on The Eclectic Radical: Remember Kids, Sex is Bad: Sarah Palin and the Reinjection of the Abortion IssueThe Eclectic Geekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00816048674683037441noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3598011236524370092.post-92150711755517746302008-09-06T10:25:00.000-07:002008-09-06T10:25:00.000-07:00I have to correct this specific statement. In Ju...I have to correct this specific statement.<BR/><BR/> <B><I>In Judaism, a baby is not considered human until two weeks after birth.</I></B><BR/><BR/> It is incorrect. While female infants don't undergo the same sort of ritual that males do, <B><I>at the age of ripe eight days old</I></B>--there is still that mark of that specific age. I'm speaking of circumcision, of course, which is a pact with God. The act of circumcision itself is one's promise to God to live as a Jew in His service for the rest of days. You don't undergo such a ritual being "inhuman".Dinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09958060622230053048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3598011236524370092.post-7182618710064152382008-09-06T09:34:00.000-07:002008-09-06T09:34:00.000-07:00After re-reading my own post, I can safely say the...After re-reading my own post, I can safely say the following:<BR/><BR/> I didn't make the statement you attribute to me, I believe that a potential child is 'less important' than a living adult (or, in far too many cases, a living CHILD, since the majority of unwanted pregnancies occur among the teenage or barely-adult population) myself. <BR/><BR/> My statement was that most liberals do not consider abortion a positive good or argue that every pregnant woman who isn't ready for a child have an abortion. They believe freedom of conscience demands that the mother make her own choice.<BR/><BR/> Do you disagree with that?<BR/><BR/> I /did say/ that many hardcore feminists believe that a woman's absolute right to personal control over her own reproduction is more important than the life of a potential child, but this is not the same issue as comparing the mother's health or life with the child's health or life. I do believe that the right to an abortion IS an essential part of a woman's freedom from economic and social control, but I believe that the choice of whether or not to have an abortion is something to be taken very seriously. I think most liberals feel the same on that matter as well.The Eclectic Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00816048674683037441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3598011236524370092.post-42266735346696867422008-09-04T20:58:00.000-07:002008-09-04T20:58:00.000-07:00I happen to agree, wholeheartedly, with your last ...I happen to agree, wholeheartedly, with your last paragraph.<BR/><BR/>I'm leaving your beliefs alone, they're yours and you obviously have every right to them.<BR/><BR/>However, there's one statement in there that's pretty wrong. It's not only hardline feminists who believe that a potential child is less important than a living adult.<BR/><BR/>In Judaism, a baby is not considered human until two weeks after birth. Part of this is historical: when so many babies died so easily and so quickly, and so soon after birth, it made no sense to consider it as a counted human until it had been alive for some time. In fact, in some of the laws in the Bible, it points out that if you harm a pregnant woman and she miscarries, it's not murder, but if you harm a pregnant woman and the woman dies, it is murder.Erisian Sainthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08828825327096959477noreply@blogger.com